B650E vs B650 for a 7800X3D gaming build: is the Gen5 GPU slot worth it?

pcie_papaya
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B650E vs B650 for a 7800X3D gaming build: is the Gen5 GPU slot worth it?

Post by pcie_papaya »

I'm putting together a 7800X3D build and I'm stuck on the board. B650 boards are cheaper and have everything I actually need, but a few B650E boards are only a bit more and give me a PCIe 5.0 x16 slot for the GPU. I know a 4070 Ti Super won't saturate 4.0, but I keep thinking about future-proofing. Anyone actually regret going B650 instead of B650E? Or is PCIe 5.0 on the GPU slot still a nothingburger for gaming?

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Re: B650E vs B650 for a 7800X3D gaming build: is the Gen5 GPU slot worth it?

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Honestly, for a 7800X3D gaming rig? B650 is fine. You're not going to notice Gen5 x16 on a GPU until you're running something that actually needs the bandwidth, and by then you'll probably be on a new platform anyway. Put the difference into a better cooler or more SSD. The only reason I'd go B650E is if the specific board has better rear I/O or BIOS flashback out of the box.

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Re: B650E vs B650 for a 7800X3D gaming build: is the Gen5 GPU slot worth it?

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I half disagree with SataSal. I went B650E mostly because I wanted a Gen5 M.2 slot that didn't steal lanes from the GPU, and the board I got had better VRMs for the money. But the GPU slot being Gen5? Total meh right now. If you're just gaming, don't pay extra for the E. If you're doing a lot of big file moves or plan to keep the board through a couple GPU gens, maybe.

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Re: B650E vs B650 for a 7800X3D gaming build: is the Gen5 GPU slot worth it?

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I've got a plain B650 with a 7800X3D and a 4070 Ti Super. Boots fine, EXPO 6000 CL30 worked first try after a BIOS update, and I've never once thought 'man I wish this slot was Gen5.' CableRat is right that the M.2 lane sharing is the thing to check, not the GPU slot. Pick a board with the M.2 layout you want and call it a day.

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Re: B650E vs B650 for a 7800X3D gaming build: is the Gen5 GPU slot worth it?

Post by pcie_papaya »

Good stuff. The lane-sharing point is exactly what I'm worried about. On the B650 board I was looking at, populating the second M.2 drops the GPU slot to x8. Does that actually matter for a 4070 Ti Super, or is x8 Gen4 still enough? I'm only gaming, no capture card or anything.

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Re: B650E vs B650 for a 7800X3D gaming build: is the Gen5 GPU slot worth it?

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x8 Gen4 is still plenty for that card in most games, but it's one of those things that annoys me on principle. pcie_papaya, check the manual for the exact board — some B650 boards only drop to x8 with the second M.2, some share with a PCIe slot instead. If you run two NVMe drives, just buy a board where the primary GPU slot stays x16 and the second M.2 doesn't kneecap it.

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Re: B650E vs B650 for a 7800X3D gaming build: is the Gen5 GPU slot worth it?

Post by CableRat »

This is why I ended up on B650E, honestly. My board keeps the GPU at x16 and gives me a Gen5 M.2 off the CPU. But midrange_mack is right that Gen5 SSDs run hot and you probably won't feel the difference in games. If you're not buying a Gen5 drive, the E is basically a spec sheet flex.

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